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Day 123

22 June 2026

Record: Official record ↗

Who testified

Subjects discussed

👤 Mike Van Wyk👤 Commissioner Julius Mkhwanazi (suspended EMPD/Metro chief; admits payments from Cat Matlala)👤 Sandy Du Plessis👤 Mr Vusimuzi 'Cat' Matlala👤 Adv Chaskalson SC🏛 Medicare 24 Tshwane District (Pty) Ltd🏛 Medicare24 (Tshwane District) / Medicare24 Group🏛 Anubis Protection Services

9 conflicts flagged on this day

◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
KNN-269e9cd49290
Loan agreement between Mr Motsumi and Medicare24 Tshwane District
Claim A says agreement was oral; Claim B references a written draft loan agreement at page 850. Cannot both be the same agreement's form.
Day 160Vusimuzi Cat Matlala“Yes.”
Day 123Adv Chaskalson SC“That loan agreement in draft form appears at page 850”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
KNN-4bbbdaf8f7c4
Loan agreement between Mr Motsumi and Medicare24 Tshwane District
Claim A dates loan agreement to June 2024; Claim B to on/before 27 April 2025 — incompatible dates for same agreement.
Day 160Adv Sello SC“2024. June 2024, that is the correct date.”
Day 123Adv Chaskalson SC“on or before 27 April 2025”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
KNN-58274be3ef1d
Commissioner Julius Mkhwanazi
A interprets the chat reference as being to Matlala; B has him denying it was Matlala—same referent, incompatible.
Day 123Adv Baloyi SC“it may have been discussed with him on the basis that it is a reference to Mr Matlala, the one who is paying us”
Day 123Adv Khumalo SC“he denied that it was Mr Matlala”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
KNN-912c8fb794a3
Loan agreement between Mr Motsumi and Medicare24 Tshwane District
Same loan agreement dated to June 2024 in A but on/before 27 April 2025 in B; both cannot be the conclusion date.
Day 160Adv Sello SC“That is what is understood to be the date of the conclusion of this loan agreement.”
Day 123Adv Chaskalson SC“on or before 27 April 2025”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited
KNN-cab3d783bab8
Loan agreement between Mr Motsumi and Medicare24 Tshwane District
Same document at 16:24 cannot be both sent by Matlala to Van Wyk and sent by Van Wyk to Matlala; direction contradicts.
Day 123Adv Chaskalson SC“That document is sent by Mr Matlala to Mr Van Wyk on the 23rd of April 16:24”
Day 123Adv Chaskalson SC“it came from Mr Van Wyk to Mr Matlala at 16:24”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
NLI-58274be3ef1d
Commissioner Julius Mkhwanazi
One interprets the chat reference as being to Mr Matlala; the other denies it refers to Mr Matlala—same referent, incompatible.
Day 123Adv Baloyi SC“it may have been discussed with him on the basis that it is a reference to Mr Matlala, the one who is paying us”
Day 123Adv Khumalo SC“he denied that it was Mr Matlala”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited
NLI-6e27acd905ac
SAPS clearance certificate for Mr Matlala
Certificate certifies no convictions, but Matlala had a 2001 housebreaking conviction; both cannot be true of same person.
Day 123Adv Chaskalson SC“a SAPS clearance certificate certifying that Mr Matlala has no criminal convictions”
Day 123Adv Chaskalson SC“this document, it seems to us, could not lawfully have been issued, because he did have a criminal conviction for housebreaking in 2001, and that was ”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited
NLI-969e0487c33c
Acknowledgement of debt signed by Tsakani Matlala on 25 April 2025
Same document's location stated as page 847 in A but page 853 in B; cannot both be the location.
Day 123Adv Chaskalson SC“That acknowledgement of debt appears at page 847”
Day 123Adv Chaskalson SC“It is 853 I am told”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited
NLI-cab3d783bab8
Loan agreement between Mr Motsumi and Medicare24 Tshwane District
Same document at 16:24 stated as sent Matlala→Van Wyk vs Van Wyk→Matlala; direction cannot both be true.
Day 123Adv Chaskalson SC“That document is sent by Mr Matlala to Mr Van Wyk on the 23rd of April 16:24”
Day 123Adv Chaskalson SC“it came from Mr Van Wyk to Mr Matlala at 16:24”

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