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meeting27 March 2025E000044

Meeting of 27 March 2025 – Minister Expresses Frustration

Minister Mchunu expressed anger at the meeting on 27 March 2025 because the PKTT had taken on additional dockets despite the disbandment directive, and he directed that further engagements would be only with the National Commissioner.

Described by 3 witnesses
Sehlahle Fannie Masemoladay 5Mr. Shadrack Sibiyaday 62Advocate Ramsamyday 154
Each of these people gave first-hand evidence about this event. Several accounts of the same event is a property of the record — it is not verification, and witnesses can be mistaken together.
14 claims from testimony
"a follow-up meeting was held regarding the implementation of the PKTT disbandment plan"
purposeLieutenant General MasemolaCL0004716
"What made him angry was that in the proposed plan somewhere we said the PKTT is not going to take further cases and when you look at the figures you could see that there is an increase in the work of the PKTT"
anger reasonLieutenant General MasemolaCL0004734
"General Masemole, General Khumalo say you were angry and you did not want to engage further"
emotional state after meeting 27 march 2025Senzo Mchunu (Minister of Police 2024 to 13 July 2025, then placed on special leave)Adv Khumalo SCCL0043404
"you were angry with them that they were taking two additional dockets"
"The Minister directed that there will be no further meetings regarding the matter and any further engagements would be held with me only as the National Commissioner"
"Minister Mchunu expressed his dissatisfaction that the National Commissioner had failed to act in accordance with his directive to disband the PKTT immediately"
"the witness had been flown to the Eastern Cape by the Minister of Police, Minister Mchunu"
flown bySuliman CarimMs RamsamyCL0170071
"all arrangements were made by Minister Mchunu for this witness to consult with Mr Perumal in Eastern Cape"
"I had assumed that the Minister's office had paid for"
"It seems strange to me that Minister Mchunu would be involved in this investigation"
"Mr Perumal did not offer any further details regarding Mr Mchunu's involvement in the investigation"
provided detailsMs RamsamyCL0170082
"Was this the first time that you became aware, through Mr Perumal or any other person, of Minister Mchunu's involvement in the work that you are doing here relating to Crime Intelligence?"
"At that stage, I was not aware that General Jacob had informed Mr Raphesu that the Inspectorate had to update Minister Mchunu on Mr Adams' complaint every 10 days"
knowledgeAdvocate RamsamyMs RamsamyCL0170086
"it seems that Mr Mchunu's involvement was more than just receiving updates from the Inspectorate on Mr Adams' criminal complaint"