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Day 107

13 May 2026

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Who testified

Subjects discussed

👤 Warrant Officer Boy Steve Phakula (SAPS National Intervention Unit)👤 Warrant Officer Marumo Joseph Magane👤 Mr Teboho Mosikili👤 Major General Feroz Khan🏛 National Investigation Unit (NINU)🏛 Dog Unit🏛 Directorate for Priority Crime Investigation👤 Colonel Sephungu

19 conflicts flagged on this day

◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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Warrant Officer Boy Steve Phakula
One claim says Phakula breached exhibit-handling protocol; the other says he did nothing wrong—cannot both be true of same conduct.
Day 107Advocate Baloyi SC“is in breach of the protocol about proper handling of exhibits on a crime scene”
Day 108Chairperson“he was saying there was nothing wrong that Warrant Officer Phakula had done”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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National Investigation Unit
A says NINU is the same as NIU; B says it is a different unit—same referent, directly contradictory.
Day 107Advocate Baloyi SC“It is the same unit that is normally referred to as just NIU”
Day 107Warrant Officer Phakula“It is a different unit, Commissioner.”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited
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Warrant Officer Boy Steve Phakula
A claims he smelled suspected cocaine; B claims he could smell it was drug but not cocaine—cannot both be true of same statement.
Day 107Warrant Officer Phakula“I should have said I could smell suspected drugs or suspected Cocaine”
Day 107Warrant Officer Phakula“I wanted to say I could smell it was drug but not Cocaine”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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Warrant Officer Boy Steve Phakula
Claim A affirms he was at the scene; Claim B states he was not at the scene—directly contradictory about same referent.
Day 107Warrant Officer Phakula“Correct, Commissioner.”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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National Investigation Unit
A says NINU is a different unit from NIU; B says NINU is the same as NIU. Same entity, cannot both be true.
Day 107Warrant Officer Phakula“there is another unit of investigation, N-I-N-U”
Day 107Advocate Baloyi SC“It is the same unit that is normally referred to as just NIU”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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Warrant Officer Boy Steve Phakula
Claim A says Phakula breached exhibit-handling protocol; Claim B says he did nothing wrong. Both about same conduct; cannot both be true.
Day 107Advocate Baloyi SC“is in breach of the protocol about proper handling of exhibits on a crime scene”
Day 108Chairperson“he was basically saying there was nothing wrong that Warrant Officer Phakula had done”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited
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National Investigation Unit
Claim A says NINU is the same as NIU; Claim B says it is a different unit—directly contradictory about same referent.
Day 107Advocate Baloyi SC“It is the same unit that is normally referred to as just NIU”
Day 107Advocate Baloyi SC“it is a different unit”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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Warrant Officer Boy Steve Phakula
A says conduct breached exhibit-handling protocol; B affirms nothing wrong with same conduct—cannot both be true.
Day 107Advocate Baloyi SC“is in breach of the protocol about proper handling of exhibits on a crime scene”
Day 108Lieutenant Colonel Sebola“Yes.”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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National Investigation Unit
Claims directly disagree on whether NINU is the same as or different from NIU—cannot both be true.
Day 107Advocate Baloyi SC“It is the same unit that is normally referred to as just NIU”
Day 107Warrant Officer Phakula“It is a different unit, Commissioner.”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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The crime scene
Same scene: A asserts handled in line with National Instruction 1 of 2015, B concedes it was not; direct contradiction.
Day 107Chairperson“I can also confirm that the scene was, and I lay emphasis in what follows, handled in line with the SAPS National Instruction 1 of 2015”
Day 107Warrant Officer Phakula“I have to concede that it is wrong. The scene was not in line with the National Instruction 1 of 2015.”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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The crime scene
Both refer to same scene's handling; poorly managed vs. handled per SAPS instruction cannot both be true simultaneously.
Day 107Advocate Mosikili“it is quite apparent that the scene was poorly managed”
Day 107Chairperson“I can also confirm that the scene was, and I lay emphasis in what follows, handled in line with the SAPS National Instruction 1 of 2015”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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Crime Information Management Analysis Centre
One claim says CIMAC falls under Crime Intelligence, the other explicitly denies it—same entity, same relation, directly contradictory.
Day 107Warrant Officer Phakula“CIMAC is under Crime Intelligence”
Day 108Lieutenant Colonel Sebola“It does not fall under Crime Intelligence.”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited
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Warrant Officer Marumo Joseph Magane
Cannot be both the first responding officer at a scene and an office-bound station-based person; roles are mutually exclusive.
Day 107Advocate Baloyi SC“Magane is the first responding officer.”
Day 107Advocate Baloyi SC“a station-based person who is, in fact, an office -bound person”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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Crime Information Management Analysis Centre
A ties CIMAC to Crime Intelligence as a link; B explicitly denies it falls under Crime Intelligence—direct contradiction on same referent.
Day 107Warrant Officer Phakula“CIMAC is another link of Crime Intelligence”
Day 108Lieutenant Colonel Sebola“It does not fall under Crime Intelligence.”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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National Investigation Unit
Same entity NINU claimed both identical to NIU and a distinct separate unit; cannot both be true.
Day 107Advocate Baloyi SC“It is the same unit that is normally referred to as just NIU”
Day 107Warrant Officer Phakula“there is another unit of investigation, N-I-N-U”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited
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National Investigation Unit
Claim A says NINU is the same unit as NIU; Claim B says it is a different unit—directly contradictory about same referent.
Day 107Advocate Baloyi SC“It is the same unit that is normally referred to as just NIU”
Day 107Advocate Baloyi SC“it is a different unit”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited
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Mr Teboho Mosikili
Same person claims drugs could be smelled yet also that drugs do not smell; cannot both be true.
Day 107Advocate Mosikili“I could smell drugs on the scene”
Day 107Advocate Mosikili“the drugs do not smell”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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Crime Information Management Analysis Centre
Claim A says CIMAC is a department in Crime Intelligence; Claim B says it does not fall under Crime Intelligence—directly contradictory.
Day 107Warrant Officer Phakula“CIMAC is another department in Crime Intelligence”
Day 108Lieutenant Colonel Sebola“It does not fall under Crime Intelligence.”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited
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Colonel Sephungu
Same person re same scene attendance: one says he gave permission to go, other says he instructed not to go—cannot both be true.
Day 107Warrant Officer Phakula“He confirmed that I gave him a call and he gave me permission to attend the crime scene”
Day 107Warrant Officer Phakula“he said, no, do not go I would not have”

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