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Day 26

5 November 2025

Record: Official record ↗

Who testified

Subjects discussed

👤 Lt Gen Samuel Dumisani Khumalo🏛 National Task Team Investigating Political Related Cases in KZN (2024/2025 request)🏛 Inter-Ministerial Committee on Political Killings👤 Sehlahle Fannie Masemola👤 Mr. Shadrack Sibiya🏛 South African Police Service🏛 task team (as organisational category)👤 Senzo Mchunu (Minister of Police 2024 to 13 July 2025, then placed on special leave)

21 conflicts flagged on this day

◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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National Task Team Investigating Political Related Cases in KZN
A describes it as a provincial structure; B affirms it is a national task team set up by national executive—conflicting scope for same entity.
Day 62Lieutenant General Shadrach Sibiya“PKTT is a provincial structure or one of those provincial capacities.”
Day 26Lieutenant General Khumalo“Yes, it can be right”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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National Task Team Investigating Political Related Cases in KZN
One says the task team must be disestablished; the other says it will continue—directly opposed on the same entity's existence.
Day 64Lieutenant General Sibiya“task teams must be disestablished”
Day 26Lieutenant General Khumalo“the Task Team will continue beyond elections”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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National Task Team Investigating Political Related Cases in KZN
Claims directly contradict on whether National Commissioner established the same task team; both cannot be true.
Day 42Minister Senzo Mchunu“the National Political Killings Task Team was not one of those established by the National Commissioner”
Day 26Lieutenant General Khumalo“the Political Killings Task Team was established by the National Commissioner”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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National Task Team Investigating Political Related Cases in KZN
A calls it a provincial structure; B says it was set up by national executive as a national task team—incompatible characterizations of same entity.
Day 62Lieutenant General Shadrach Sibiya“PKTT is a provincial structure or one of those provincial capacities.”
Day 26Adv Elaine Harrison“It was a national task team in the sense that it was set up by the national executive”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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National Task Team Investigating Political Related Cases in KZN
One says the PKTT had to remain (i.e., not disbanded); the other says it was disbanded—directly incompatible for same entity.
Day 26Lieutenant General Khumalo“The position has always been that the PKTT had to remain”
Day 79Adv Baloyi SC“the PKTT was disbanded”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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National Task Team Investigating Political Related Cases in KZN
Same entity's establishment: A says not by National Commissioner, B says by National Commissioner—directly contradictory.
Day 42Minister Senzo Mchunu“the National Political Killings Task Team was not one of those established by the National Commissioner”
Day 26Lieutenant General Khumalo“it was established by the National Commissioner”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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National Task Team Investigating Political Related Cases in KZN
One states the task team had to remain; the other states it was effectively immediately disbanded—cannot both be true.
Day 26Lieutenant General Khumalo“The position has always been that the PKTT had to remain”
Day 63Lieutenant General Sibiya“effective immediate in terms of the disbandment”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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National Task Team Investigating Political Related Cases in KZN
One says the task team had to remain; the other directs immediate disestablishment—directly opposed on same entity's fate.
Day 26Lieutenant General Khumalo“The position has always been that the PKTT had to remain”
Day 44Minister Senzo Mchunu“I, therefore, direct that the Political Killings Task Team be disestablished immediately.”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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National Task Team Investigating Political Related Cases in KZN
Claim A says the National Commissioner established it; Claim B says it was not created by the National Commissioner—direct contradiction on same entity.
Day 26Lieutenant General Khumalo“it was established by the National Commissioner”
Day 44Minister Senzo Mchunu“this one, as I say, was not created by the National Commissioner.”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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National Task Team Investigating Political Related Cases in KZN
Two different establishing authorities claimed for the same task team: interministerial committee vs National Commissioner.
Day 42Minister Senzo Mchunu“it was established in 2018 by an interministerial committee chaired by the Minister of Police”
Day 26Lieutenant General Khumalo“it was established by the National Commissioner”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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National Task Team Investigating Political Related Cases in KZN
A asserts the task team had to remain; B directs immediate disestablishment of the same team—mutually exclusive states.
Day 26Lieutenant General Khumalo“The position has always been that the PKTT had to remain”
Day 63Minister Senzo Mchunu“I therefore direct that the Political Killings Task Team be disestablished immediately”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
KNN-cf936c2cd13a
National Task Team Investigating Political Related Cases in KZN
A attributes establishment to the National Commissioner; B attributes it to Presidential executive intervention—conflicting establishing authorities for same body.
Day 26Lieutenant General Khumalo“it was established by the National Commissioner”
Day 42Minister Senzo Mchunu“it was established through, if you like, political intervention where the President was using his executive powers to intervene in a situation as was ”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited
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National Task Team Investigating Political Related Cases in KZN
One says deactivate post-elections, other says continue beyond elections—contradictory fates for same Task Team at same time.
Day 26Lieutenant General Khumalo“post elections the Task Team be de - activated as it has been in existence for 5 years”
Day 26Lieutenant General Khumalo“the Task Team will continue beyond elections”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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Minister's directive letter of 31 December 2024
Same measures: A requires no disruption of investigations, B states they promote disruption—mutually inconsistent.
Day 26Adv Hassim SC“These measures must ensure that ongoing investigations are not disrupted or compromised”
Day 26Lieutenant General Khumalo“the measures in place that you are putting, they are promoting disruption”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
NLI-2870788b479c
Lt Gen Samuel Dumisani Khumalo
Same entity, same subject (disbandment): one says did not agree, other says agreed—cannot both be true.
Day 26Lieutenant General Khumalo“we did not agree with the disbandment”
Day 63Lieutenant General Sibiya“he was in agreement.”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited
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Lt Gen Samuel Dumisani Khumalo
Cannot both confirm the letter is genuine official communication and disown it as not his over the same period.
Day 26General Khumalo“I confirmed that it is not fake news , it is indeed an official communication between the Minister and the National Commissioner”
Day 26General Khumalo“I disowned the letter from the 1st, when it started trending, up until the 14th”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
NLI-5663b43788df
Exhibit SFM15 — funding request memo
Same memo's approval by National Commissioner: A says approved, B says not approved—directly contradictory.
Day 26Adv Hassim SC“this is the request for extension that was approved, if we see page 110, by the National Commissioner”
Day 34Adv Pooe“it had not been approved by the National Commissioner”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited
NLI-c364d7995d3a
Mr. Shadrack Sibiya
Same final feedback report deadline stated as 2025-04-25 vs 2026-04-25; cannot both be true.
Day 26General Khumalo“A final feedback report on the finalisation of this process including confirmation that all Task Team members have reported back to their stations of ”
“on or before Friday 25 April 2026.”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
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Mr Vusimuzi 'Cat' Matlala
Cannot both not continue with the plan and have done what he was supposed to do from his side.
Day 26Lieutenant General Khumalo“according to Mr Matlala, he did not continue with the plan.”
Day 54Brigadier Matjeng“He did what he was supposed to do from his side.”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness
NLI-f286d92843ed
National Task Team Investigating Political Related Cases in KZN
Same task team's establishing authority stated as National Commissioner vs national executive—mutually exclusive originators.
Day 26Lieutenant General Khumalo“the Political Killings Task Team was established by the National Commissioner”
Day 26Adv Elaine Harrison“It was a national task team in the sense that it was set up by the national executive”
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited◆ Cross-witness⟂ Independent source
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National Task Team Investigating Political Related Cases in KZN
continuation status
One position holds the task team must/will continue, while the Minister states its continuation had become untenable — incompatible single-valued claims about its status.
Day 26Lieutenant General Khumalo“the Task Team will continue beyond elections”
Day 34Lt-Col Khumalo“I am happy that the executives are still engaging and telling that the team must continue working”
Day 45Minister Senzo Mchunu“The continuation of a temporary task team outside of SAPS organizational structure had become untenable both administratively and constitutionally.”

Claims from this day

Evidence introduced

ExhibitTitleTypeDate
1.1 INDEXED AND PAGINATED STATEMENT 26.11.2025 - REDACTED BUNDLE ↗other_submission26 Nov 2025
1.2. INDEXED AND PAGINATED SDK ANNEXURES 26.11.2025 - REDACTED BUNDLE ↗annexure_bundle26 Nov 2025

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